1 00:00:08,950 --> 00:00:07,030 hi welcome to the international space 2 00:00:11,749 --> 00:00:08,960 station flight control room we are here 3 00:00:14,629 --> 00:00:11,759 for a distance or digital learning 4 00:00:16,390 --> 00:00:14,639 network event and uh with us we're 5 00:00:19,670 --> 00:00:16,400 talking with the middle middle school 6 00:00:21,750 --> 00:00:19,680 kids at lanier middle school in buford 7 00:00:22,870 --> 00:00:21,760 georgia so today we have a special guest 8 00:00:25,509 --> 00:00:22,880 for you guys because i understand you 9 00:00:27,269 --> 00:00:25,519 guys have been studying about earth and 10 00:00:30,070 --> 00:00:27,279 earth science and it's a good time 11 00:00:31,830 --> 00:00:30,080 because this is earth month here at nasa 12 00:00:33,830 --> 00:00:31,840 um so here with us today we have will 13 00:00:35,750 --> 00:00:33,840 stephanov he is the chief earth 14 00:00:37,190 --> 00:00:35,760 scientist here at the nasa johnson space 15 00:00:39,030 --> 00:00:37,200 center welcome well and thank you for 16 00:00:41,190 --> 00:00:39,040 coming 17 00:00:48,389 --> 00:00:41,200 thank you so guys we're ready to take 18 00:00:52,950 --> 00:00:50,389 um how can you see the difference 19 00:00:55,350 --> 00:00:52,960 between the past and the future and the 20 00:00:58,790 --> 00:00:55,360 present and what shows the plate to 21 00:01:00,310 --> 00:00:58,800 tectonics and the satellites 22 00:01:03,590 --> 00:01:00,320 that's an excellent question 23 00:01:05,509 --> 00:01:03,600 sorry to get myself arranged here 24 00:01:07,590 --> 00:01:05,519 that's an excellent question 25 00:01:09,750 --> 00:01:07,600 the the way that you look at changes in 26 00:01:11,990 --> 00:01:09,760 time with satellite data is you collect 27 00:01:13,750 --> 00:01:12,000 lots and lots of images over a long 28 00:01:15,270 --> 00:01:13,760 period of time 29 00:01:17,429 --> 00:01:15,280 the a good example of this is the 30 00:01:19,830 --> 00:01:17,439 landsat satellite series which has been 31 00:01:21,109 --> 00:01:19,840 collecting data since 1972 32 00:01:23,270 --> 00:01:21,119 so when you have all these scenes you 33 00:01:25,510 --> 00:01:23,280 can line them up and just look at them 34 00:01:27,270 --> 00:01:25,520 directly to see what's changed over time 35 00:01:29,910 --> 00:01:27,280 like you can see things like change in 36 00:01:32,710 --> 00:01:29,920 vegetation growth of cities 37 00:01:34,149 --> 00:01:32,720 new lava flows from erupting volcanoes 38 00:01:36,069 --> 00:01:34,159 things like that 39 00:01:38,550 --> 00:01:36,079 for the plate tectonic question 40 00:01:40,789 --> 00:01:38,560 you it's hard to actually measure or see 41 00:01:42,630 --> 00:01:40,799 plate tectonics from satellites but what 42 00:01:44,950 --> 00:01:42,640 you can see is the 43 00:01:47,030 --> 00:01:44,960 effects of plate tectonics so you can 44 00:01:48,550 --> 00:01:47,040 see where volcanoes are erupting because 45 00:01:50,630 --> 00:01:48,560 volcanoes are typically associated with 46 00:01:52,069 --> 00:01:50,640 plate tectonic activities 47 00:01:54,389 --> 00:01:52,079 you can see 48 00:01:55,830 --> 00:01:54,399 damage from earthquakes and for some 49 00:01:58,230 --> 00:01:55,840 different kinds of satellite sensors 50 00:02:00,230 --> 00:01:58,240 like gps satellites we can actually use 51 00:02:01,910 --> 00:02:00,240 that information to measure 52 00:02:03,670 --> 00:02:01,920 the height of mountains and how they're 53 00:02:05,190 --> 00:02:03,680 growing over time so we can see how that 54 00:02:08,630 --> 00:02:05,200 that part of the plate tectonic process 55 00:02:10,389 --> 00:02:08,640 is working as well 56 00:02:12,309 --> 00:02:10,399 that was a good smart question we have 57 00:02:15,510 --> 00:02:12,319 another one 58 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:19,430 how are satellites kept from damage 59 00:02:23,430 --> 00:02:21,270 also very good question 60 00:02:24,949 --> 00:02:23,440 satellites typically uh unfortunately 61 00:02:26,390 --> 00:02:24,959 they don't have they don't have 62 00:02:28,869 --> 00:02:26,400 shields like you'd see in star trek or 63 00:02:30,710 --> 00:02:28,879 something like that uh most satellites 64 00:02:32,790 --> 00:02:30,720 the best way to protect them is by 65 00:02:34,390 --> 00:02:32,800 putting them into orbits high enough so 66 00:02:36,150 --> 00:02:34,400 that they're out of most of the orbital 67 00:02:37,430 --> 00:02:36,160 debris that blankets 68 00:02:39,830 --> 00:02:37,440 well that doesn't like our planet but 69 00:02:40,949 --> 00:02:39,840 orbits our planet 70 00:02:43,030 --> 00:02:40,959 this 71 00:02:44,630 --> 00:02:43,040 the orbital debris itself 72 00:02:46,790 --> 00:02:44,640 is caused by 73 00:02:49,509 --> 00:02:46,800 old satellites pieces of old satellites 74 00:02:52,630 --> 00:02:49,519 old rocket pieces of old rocket launches 75 00:02:53,910 --> 00:02:52,640 as well as natural debris like meteors 76 00:02:54,869 --> 00:02:53,920 that enter the earth's atmosphere all 77 00:02:57,670 --> 00:02:54,879 the time 78 00:02:58,949 --> 00:02:57,680 so there's groups both here at nasa and 79 00:03:00,949 --> 00:02:58,959 in the department of defense that 80 00:03:04,229 --> 00:03:00,959 actively track 81 00:03:06,790 --> 00:03:04,239 about a half a million a little objects 82 00:03:08,309 --> 00:03:06,800 some smaller than the size of a baseball 83 00:03:10,229 --> 00:03:08,319 and they track these every day as they 84 00:03:13,030 --> 00:03:10,239 orbit around the earth the purpose of 85 00:03:14,550 --> 00:03:13,040 that is so that they can warn manned 86 00:03:15,589 --> 00:03:14,560 spacecraft like the international space 87 00:03:16,630 --> 00:03:15,599 station 88 00:03:18,149 --> 00:03:16,640 when 89 00:03:19,910 --> 00:03:18,159 orbital debris might be approaching them 90 00:03:21,990 --> 00:03:19,920 so they can take a they can maneuver the 91 00:03:23,430 --> 00:03:22,000 station out of the way for satellites 92 00:03:25,270 --> 00:03:23,440 that aren't manned 93 00:03:26,630 --> 00:03:25,280 uh typically like i said they put them 94 00:03:28,710 --> 00:03:26,640 into high orbits so they're out of the 95 00:03:30,630 --> 00:03:28,720 path of most of this orbital debris 96 00:03:32,229 --> 00:03:30,640 but satellites do occasionally get hit 97 00:03:34,229 --> 00:03:32,239 by things and sometimes they get hit by 98 00:03:37,910 --> 00:03:34,239 other satellites which has happened over 99 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:42,550 good question 100 00:03:46,470 --> 00:03:44,470 how long does it take to process 101 00:03:48,149 --> 00:03:46,480 information from satellites and what 102 00:03:50,229 --> 00:03:48,159 kind of information can you get from 103 00:03:51,830 --> 00:03:50,239 them 104 00:03:54,789 --> 00:03:51,840 ah that's a that's a twenty thousand 105 00:03:56,550 --> 00:03:54,799 dollar question uh the the time 106 00:03:57,670 --> 00:03:56,560 with with satellites that are up there 107 00:03:59,429 --> 00:03:57,680 now the recent the most recent 108 00:04:01,509 --> 00:03:59,439 generations of satellites 109 00:04:03,910 --> 00:04:01,519 and the fact that 110 00:04:05,589 --> 00:04:03,920 you can put ground stations 111 00:04:06,949 --> 00:04:05,599 almost anywhere now to receive data from 112 00:04:08,630 --> 00:04:06,959 the satellites 113 00:04:10,710 --> 00:04:08,640 depending on the sensor you can get data 114 00:04:12,390 --> 00:04:10,720 back in a few hours 115 00:04:15,750 --> 00:04:12,400 and have it available for other 116 00:04:17,349 --> 00:04:15,760 scientists or the public to look at 117 00:04:18,949 --> 00:04:17,359 the 118 00:04:21,670 --> 00:04:18,959 things you can measure from satellites 119 00:04:23,110 --> 00:04:21,680 is i won't say it's endless but 120 00:04:25,830 --> 00:04:23,120 pretty much almost anything about the 121 00:04:27,830 --> 00:04:25,840 surface of the earth and the atmosphere 122 00:04:29,670 --> 00:04:27,840 you can measure from a satellite you can 123 00:04:31,430 --> 00:04:29,680 look at things like surface compositions 124 00:04:33,350 --> 00:04:31,440 of different materials like the elements 125 00:04:34,550 --> 00:04:33,360 or the minerals that make it up you can 126 00:04:36,390 --> 00:04:34,560 look at the composition of the 127 00:04:38,230 --> 00:04:36,400 atmosphere or the presence of pollutants 128 00:04:39,590 --> 00:04:38,240 in the atmosphere you can look at things 129 00:04:41,270 --> 00:04:39,600 like surface temperature like the 130 00:04:42,950 --> 00:04:41,280 surface of the land surf land surface 131 00:04:45,909 --> 00:04:42,960 temperature or the ocean surface 132 00:04:47,990 --> 00:04:45,919 temperature you can look at things like 133 00:04:49,430 --> 00:04:48,000 vegetation extent and health over the 134 00:04:51,590 --> 00:04:49,440 entire globe 135 00:04:54,550 --> 00:04:51,600 it's really the possibilities are 136 00:04:56,469 --> 00:04:54,560 are really defined by 137 00:05:00,150 --> 00:04:56,479 the physics of the electromagnetic 138 00:05:04,710 --> 00:05:02,390 very good question and very good answer 139 00:05:06,469 --> 00:05:04,720 do we have another one 140 00:05:11,029 --> 00:05:06,479 what is one of the satellites that take 141 00:05:12,230 --> 00:05:11,039 the best and most up-to-date photos 142 00:05:14,150 --> 00:05:12,240 that's 143 00:05:15,990 --> 00:05:14,160 that i'd have to say is in the the 144 00:05:17,270 --> 00:05:16,000 commercial satellite realm 145 00:05:19,270 --> 00:05:17,280 there's a number of commercial 146 00:05:22,070 --> 00:05:19,280 satellites that collect data of fine 147 00:05:24,310 --> 00:05:22,080 enough resolution or surface detail that 148 00:05:26,150 --> 00:05:24,320 you can see things that are less than 149 00:05:27,830 --> 00:05:26,160 about a foot and a half apart on the 150 00:05:29,189 --> 00:05:27,840 ground from orbit 151 00:05:30,390 --> 00:05:29,199 and one of those satellites is called 152 00:05:31,990 --> 00:05:30,400 goi 153 00:05:33,670 --> 00:05:32,000 in fact some of the some of the images 154 00:05:34,950 --> 00:05:33,680 if you look at google earth 155 00:05:36,230 --> 00:05:34,960 some of the imagery that you see in 156 00:05:37,830 --> 00:05:36,240 there when you can zoom down to the 157 00:05:42,230 --> 00:05:37,840 street level 158 00:05:43,909 --> 00:05:42,240 satellites like this that kind of 159 00:05:46,310 --> 00:05:43,919 resolution in fact some of them collect 160 00:05:47,749 --> 00:05:46,320 data that's so finely detailed that you 161 00:05:50,150 --> 00:05:47,759 can't release it to the public because 162 00:05:53,830 --> 00:05:50,160 it's a security concern 163 00:05:55,909 --> 00:05:53,840 but other satellites uh other sensors 164 00:05:57,590 --> 00:05:55,919 are designed so that they collect more 165 00:05:59,670 --> 00:05:57,600 information over the same spot on the 166 00:06:01,430 --> 00:05:59,680 earth in shorter time scales so some 167 00:06:03,590 --> 00:06:01,440 sensors can take data several times a 168 00:06:04,790 --> 00:06:03,600 day over the same spot on the earth as 169 00:06:06,950 --> 00:06:04,800 opposed to getting really high 170 00:06:08,629 --> 00:06:06,960 resolution data it's kind of a trade-off 171 00:06:10,790 --> 00:06:08,639 right now our technology is still at the 172 00:06:13,430 --> 00:06:10,800 level where you either get really really 173 00:06:15,510 --> 00:06:13,440 detailed information or you get detail a 174 00:06:17,029 --> 00:06:15,520 lot of information over the same spot 175 00:06:20,309 --> 00:06:17,039 but you don't typically get it at the 176 00:06:23,909 --> 00:06:22,309 very interesting i can tell you guys 177 00:06:26,870 --> 00:06:23,919 have done your homework 178 00:06:28,950 --> 00:06:26,880 we've got another question 179 00:06:32,309 --> 00:06:28,960 how long will it be until the next png 180 00:06:34,070 --> 00:06:32,319 are simple continent forms 181 00:06:36,150 --> 00:06:34,080 ah that's an excellent geological 182 00:06:37,749 --> 00:06:36,160 question right right close to my heart 183 00:06:39,990 --> 00:06:37,759 um the 184 00:06:41,749 --> 00:06:40,000 the supercontinent pangaea 185 00:06:44,390 --> 00:06:41,759 the last one there's actually been we 186 00:06:47,270 --> 00:06:44,400 think there's been six uh in geological 187 00:06:49,029 --> 00:06:47,280 history the last one formed about 300 188 00:06:51,430 --> 00:06:49,039 million years ago and then started to 189 00:06:53,270 --> 00:06:51,440 break up about 200 million years ago 190 00:06:55,110 --> 00:06:53,280 and we can look at the way the plates 191 00:06:56,550 --> 00:06:55,120 are currently moving today and make 192 00:06:58,550 --> 00:06:56,560 predictive models 193 00:07:01,270 --> 00:06:58,560 of if everything continues the same what 194 00:07:02,629 --> 00:07:01,280 will happen so the current predictions 195 00:07:04,950 --> 00:07:02,639 are that we might see another 196 00:07:06,950 --> 00:07:04,960 pangea-like continent which geologists 197 00:07:16,230 --> 00:07:06,960 are calling pangaea ultima 198 00:07:20,950 --> 00:07:17,990 how long do you have to be in college 199 00:07:22,870 --> 00:07:20,960 before you get to work at nasa as a nasa 200 00:07:24,390 --> 00:07:22,880 scientist 201 00:07:25,990 --> 00:07:24,400 uh it's an excellent question 202 00:07:27,670 --> 00:07:26,000 the the answer is it really kind of 203 00:07:29,749 --> 00:07:27,680 depends on what you want to do 204 00:07:31,589 --> 00:07:29,759 and nasa there's a wide range of job 205 00:07:32,870 --> 00:07:31,599 opportunities available 206 00:07:34,390 --> 00:07:32,880 you can be 207 00:07:35,830 --> 00:07:34,400 i would have to say that 208 00:07:37,909 --> 00:07:35,840 probably getting a bachelor's degree is 209 00:07:40,390 --> 00:07:37,919 the basic minimum that you might want to 210 00:07:41,909 --> 00:07:40,400 do so four to five years in college 211 00:07:43,430 --> 00:07:41,919 uh but you could be 212 00:07:44,869 --> 00:07:43,440 you could be a computer programmer you 213 00:07:47,909 --> 00:07:44,879 can be a scientist you can be an 214 00:07:50,790 --> 00:07:47,919 engineer uh you can be a writer you can 215 00:07:52,150 --> 00:07:50,800 be a speaker you can be a tv producer uh 216 00:07:53,830 --> 00:07:52,160 it's all really depends on what you want 217 00:07:55,270 --> 00:07:53,840 to do but i'd say i'd say a bachelor's 218 00:07:56,390 --> 00:07:55,280 degree is probably the minimum for some 219 00:07:58,469 --> 00:07:56,400 things you might need a more advanced 220 00:07:59,909 --> 00:07:58,479 degree like a master's degree or phd and 221 00:08:02,869 --> 00:07:59,919 that adds more years to your time in 222 00:08:05,350 --> 00:08:02,879 school but it starts where you are now 223 00:08:07,029 --> 00:08:05,360 every every course you take every you 224 00:08:10,550 --> 00:08:07,039 know every year that 225 00:08:12,550 --> 00:08:10,560 you add more education to yourself 226 00:08:14,469 --> 00:08:12,560 is something that only enhances what you 227 00:08:16,869 --> 00:08:14,479 your knowledge and will 228 00:08:19,670 --> 00:08:16,879 pave the way to where you want to go so 229 00:08:23,270 --> 00:08:19,680 keep studying exactly right yes 230 00:08:27,110 --> 00:08:25,430 yes 231 00:08:29,270 --> 00:08:27,120 is there a chance that one of our 232 00:08:31,830 --> 00:08:29,280 current continents will split again if 233 00:08:34,149 --> 00:08:31,840 so which one would be most likely to 234 00:08:35,829 --> 00:08:34,159 split 235 00:08:38,949 --> 00:08:35,839 well okay i think yeah i think you're 236 00:08:41,029 --> 00:08:38,959 asking uh if we're gonna see any any uh 237 00:08:43,430 --> 00:08:41,039 large large new separations of 238 00:08:45,829 --> 00:08:43,440 continents probably not 239 00:08:47,750 --> 00:08:45,839 uh as i as i said earlier 240 00:08:49,190 --> 00:08:47,760 the the current thinking is that we're 241 00:08:50,389 --> 00:08:49,200 actually entering a phase where the 242 00:08:52,870 --> 00:08:50,399 continents are starting to come back 243 00:08:55,829 --> 00:08:52,880 together again over the next 250 million 244 00:08:57,670 --> 00:08:55,839 years or so that being said there is an 245 00:08:59,110 --> 00:08:57,680 active rift an active area where there 246 00:09:00,870 --> 00:08:59,120 is a little bit of continental splitting 247 00:09:03,190 --> 00:09:00,880 going on right now 248 00:09:04,550 --> 00:09:03,200 in east africa the east african rift and 249 00:09:06,389 --> 00:09:04,560 that's where 250 00:09:08,630 --> 00:09:06,399 basaltic magma is coming up through the 251 00:09:10,310 --> 00:09:08,640 earth's crust and actually splitting off 252 00:09:11,750 --> 00:09:10,320 the horn of africa the easternmost part 253 00:09:13,670 --> 00:09:11,760 of africa away from the rest of the 254 00:09:15,190 --> 00:09:13,680 mainland so that's going on right now 255 00:09:17,110 --> 00:09:15,200 but but apart from that that's really 256 00:09:18,949 --> 00:09:17,120 about the only place where we're seeing 257 00:09:25,110 --> 00:09:18,959 a large-scale continental rifting going 258 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,310 good questions 259 00:09:32,150 --> 00:09:30,310 if the ocean floor was a different rock 260 00:09:33,269 --> 00:09:32,160 than basalt what would change about 261 00:09:34,389 --> 00:09:33,279 earth 262 00:09:37,030 --> 00:09:34,399 great questions for you being a 263 00:09:39,350 --> 00:09:37,040 geologist that is that is a that is a 264 00:09:41,269 --> 00:09:39,360 that is a deep question uh 265 00:09:42,949 --> 00:09:41,279 what would happen uh 266 00:09:44,230 --> 00:09:42,959 the first the big answer is plate 267 00:09:45,829 --> 00:09:44,240 tectonics 268 00:09:47,030 --> 00:09:45,839 probably wouldn't work 269 00:09:49,509 --> 00:09:47,040 at least it certainly wouldn't work the 270 00:09:51,509 --> 00:09:49,519 way we see it now uh because the big 271 00:09:53,110 --> 00:09:51,519 difference between the oceanic crust and 272 00:09:55,269 --> 00:09:53,120 the continental crust 273 00:09:57,990 --> 00:09:55,279 is their densities continental crust is 274 00:10:00,710 --> 00:09:58,000 much less dense and light 275 00:10:02,630 --> 00:10:00,720 so it has a tendency to float 276 00:10:04,790 --> 00:10:02,640 or raise higher above the on the earth's 277 00:10:05,910 --> 00:10:04,800 surface oceanic basalt is very dense so 278 00:10:07,910 --> 00:10:05,920 very heavy 279 00:10:09,750 --> 00:10:07,920 and it's produced by 280 00:10:11,990 --> 00:10:09,760 magma from the earth's mantle coming out 281 00:10:13,350 --> 00:10:12,000 and erupting along mid-ocean ridges 282 00:10:16,069 --> 00:10:13,360 what that does is it creates new 283 00:10:17,269 --> 00:10:16,079 seafloor and pushes the continents apart 284 00:10:19,350 --> 00:10:17,279 and that's one of the big driving 285 00:10:21,350 --> 00:10:19,360 factors behind plate tectonics if it was 286 00:10:23,430 --> 00:10:21,360 all the same kind of material 287 00:10:25,509 --> 00:10:23,440 then it would be very difficult to move 288 00:10:28,710 --> 00:10:25,519 them apart that way also 289 00:10:30,470 --> 00:10:28,720 the heavy oceanic crust is recycled 290 00:10:32,150 --> 00:10:30,480 easier back into the mantle along 291 00:10:33,670 --> 00:10:32,160 subduction zones and again if the 292 00:10:35,509 --> 00:10:33,680 material was the same as have the same 293 00:10:36,389 --> 00:10:35,519 density that would be very difficult to 294 00:10:37,269 --> 00:10:36,399 do 295 00:10:39,590 --> 00:10:37,279 so you wouldn't have this whole 296 00:10:41,910 --> 00:10:39,600 recycling going on so that that would be 297 00:10:44,230 --> 00:10:41,920 the major change what that would mean to 298 00:10:46,470 --> 00:10:44,240 the way the earth's surface would look 299 00:10:48,550 --> 00:10:46,480 well over time you you wouldn't have new 300 00:10:50,069 --> 00:10:48,560 mountains being formed for one thing and 301 00:10:51,350 --> 00:10:50,079 so you could expect that over millions 302 00:10:52,949 --> 00:10:51,360 of years you might see the mountains 303 00:10:53,910 --> 00:10:52,959 starting to be eroded down to flat 304 00:10:55,750 --> 00:10:53,920 plains 305 00:10:58,069 --> 00:10:55,760 that doesn't happen on earth because we 306 00:10:59,670 --> 00:10:58,079 have active plate tectonics 307 00:11:01,030 --> 00:10:59,680 that would be one major 308 00:11:03,430 --> 00:11:01,040 change and of course that would cause a 309 00:11:05,350 --> 00:11:03,440 whole series of climatic differences 310 00:11:07,910 --> 00:11:05,360 and uh a lot of stuff would be very 311 00:11:09,590 --> 00:11:07,920 different so very excellent question 312 00:11:12,389 --> 00:11:09,600 there's a lot contained in that question 313 00:11:16,230 --> 00:11:12,399 deep literally and figuratively 314 00:11:21,110 --> 00:11:19,990 how do you predict natural disasters 315 00:11:22,389 --> 00:11:21,120 oh you guys are just coming up with 316 00:11:23,350 --> 00:11:22,399 awesome questions 317 00:11:24,230 --> 00:11:23,360 uh 318 00:11:27,269 --> 00:11:24,240 we 319 00:11:29,590 --> 00:11:27,279 disasters 320 00:11:31,190 --> 00:11:29,600 with any degree of certainty today but 321 00:11:33,509 --> 00:11:31,200 there are there are a lot of types of 322 00:11:34,550 --> 00:11:33,519 disasters that frequently give us 323 00:11:35,910 --> 00:11:34,560 warnings 324 00:11:37,190 --> 00:11:35,920 that something might be might be 325 00:11:39,269 --> 00:11:37,200 happening 326 00:11:40,470 --> 00:11:39,279 for instance large storm systems like 327 00:11:42,710 --> 00:11:40,480 hurricanes 328 00:11:44,949 --> 00:11:42,720 were now pretty good at being able to 329 00:11:46,389 --> 00:11:44,959 detect when those storms are forming and 330 00:11:47,269 --> 00:11:46,399 be able to detect where they're going to 331 00:11:52,470 --> 00:11:47,279 go 332 00:11:54,069 --> 00:11:52,480 plot their tracks enough to let people 333 00:11:56,069 --> 00:11:54,079 know that a storm is coming so they can 334 00:11:57,750 --> 00:11:56,079 evacuate and get out of the way for 335 00:11:59,030 --> 00:11:57,760 other things like volcanoes volcanic 336 00:12:01,030 --> 00:11:59,040 eruptions 337 00:12:03,590 --> 00:12:01,040 sometimes we we can detect some of them 338 00:12:05,190 --> 00:12:03,600 sometimes occasionally volcanoes will 339 00:12:07,110 --> 00:12:05,200 have hot spots that you can detect from 340 00:12:08,710 --> 00:12:07,120 satellites in orbit that indicate that 341 00:12:10,230 --> 00:12:08,720 there might be magnetic magma coming to 342 00:12:12,310 --> 00:12:10,240 the surface and that eruption might be 343 00:12:14,790 --> 00:12:12,320 imminent also sometimes the volcano 344 00:12:16,389 --> 00:12:14,800 shape itself changes as magma comes into 345 00:12:18,710 --> 00:12:16,399 the volcano and it causes the ground to 346 00:12:21,030 --> 00:12:18,720 raise we can measure that 347 00:12:23,350 --> 00:12:21,040 with gps sensors 348 00:12:25,430 --> 00:12:23,360 things like earthquakes those are really 349 00:12:27,350 --> 00:12:25,440 difficult because earthquakes quite 350 00:12:28,949 --> 00:12:27,360 frequently occur with no advanced 351 00:12:30,629 --> 00:12:28,959 warning whatsoever 352 00:12:32,069 --> 00:12:30,639 sometimes we know 353 00:12:34,150 --> 00:12:32,079 where earthquakes have occurred so we 354 00:12:35,590 --> 00:12:34,160 can assume based on the last time a big 355 00:12:37,430 --> 00:12:35,600 earthquake occurred we can make some 356 00:12:39,990 --> 00:12:37,440 some idea of when the next one might 357 00:12:41,990 --> 00:12:40,000 happen but it's really just a prediction 358 00:12:44,310 --> 00:12:42,000 it's really hard to predict with to make 359 00:12:52,710 --> 00:12:44,320 a real certain uh deduction of when a 360 00:12:57,269 --> 00:12:54,870 how will the technology of the goes-r 361 00:13:00,389 --> 00:12:57,279 series satellites improve compared to 362 00:13:01,190 --> 00:13:00,399 the current goes satellites 363 00:13:03,269 --> 00:13:01,200 ah 364 00:13:05,350 --> 00:13:03,279 excellent technical question uh the big 365 00:13:07,110 --> 00:13:05,360 difference there between goes-r and the 366 00:13:09,750 --> 00:13:07,120 current goes satellites 367 00:13:11,910 --> 00:13:09,760 is in the the sensitivity of the sensors 368 00:13:12,949 --> 00:13:11,920 and their capabilities the goes-r 369 00:13:15,670 --> 00:13:12,959 satellite 370 00:13:17,030 --> 00:13:15,680 will still view the western hemisphere 371 00:13:19,190 --> 00:13:17,040 and we'll collect the same measurements 372 00:13:20,790 --> 00:13:19,200 that the current goes satellites collect 373 00:13:23,590 --> 00:13:20,800 but it'll have better imaging 374 00:13:25,269 --> 00:13:23,600 capabilities it'll be sensitive to some 375 00:13:27,350 --> 00:13:25,279 new pieces of information that the 376 00:13:29,509 --> 00:13:27,360 current satellites aren't and on the 377 00:13:32,310 --> 00:13:29,519 solar end it's kind of the same story 378 00:13:34,389 --> 00:13:32,320 better imagers better detectors for some 379 00:13:36,470 --> 00:13:34,399 of the solar particles that come back 380 00:13:37,670 --> 00:13:36,480 and all of this is designed to give us 381 00:13:38,949 --> 00:13:37,680 better 382 00:13:45,990 --> 00:13:38,959 weather forecasting predictive 383 00:13:50,069 --> 00:13:47,990 is it possible for a super storm or 384 00:13:51,750 --> 00:13:50,079 multiple natural disasters at once to 385 00:13:54,069 --> 00:13:51,760 occur and cause mass extinction on the 386 00:13:56,389 --> 00:13:54,079 planet earth 387 00:13:58,389 --> 00:13:56,399 this this is another great question 388 00:14:00,949 --> 00:13:58,399 i'd have to say the answer 389 00:14:03,269 --> 00:14:00,959 is probably no and the reason i say that 390 00:14:05,430 --> 00:14:03,279 is because there's enough spots on the 391 00:14:06,790 --> 00:14:05,440 earth that are geologically quiet 392 00:14:07,910 --> 00:14:06,800 they're not prone to big earthquakes 393 00:14:09,430 --> 00:14:07,920 they're not they don't have active 394 00:14:10,629 --> 00:14:09,440 volcanoes going on 395 00:14:12,470 --> 00:14:10,639 to where 396 00:14:13,990 --> 00:14:12,480 even if all the other ones went off it 397 00:14:15,670 --> 00:14:14,000 wouldn't cause mass extinction the human 398 00:14:17,189 --> 00:14:15,680 race there would still be people left in 399 00:14:19,350 --> 00:14:17,199 those areas 400 00:14:20,470 --> 00:14:19,360 what would be more likely to cause mass 401 00:14:21,990 --> 00:14:20,480 extinction 402 00:14:23,590 --> 00:14:22,000 would probably be something similar to 403 00:14:25,670 --> 00:14:23,600 what caused the dinosaurs extinction 404 00:14:26,629 --> 00:14:25,680 like a large asteroid impact on the 405 00:14:28,310 --> 00:14:26,639 surface 406 00:14:30,550 --> 00:14:28,320 you need a you need an event of that 407 00:14:32,389 --> 00:14:30,560 kind of magnitude to create enough 408 00:14:35,350 --> 00:14:32,399 environmental disturbance 409 00:14:37,269 --> 00:14:35,360 to really make the environment uh 410 00:14:39,110 --> 00:14:37,279 so inhospitable that we'd be looking at 411 00:14:40,230 --> 00:14:39,120 mass extinction but that's a great 412 00:14:44,870 --> 00:14:40,240 question 413 00:14:48,710 --> 00:14:47,030 um at any point in time will any land 414 00:14:50,629 --> 00:14:48,720 forms arrow to a point that there isn't 415 00:14:53,430 --> 00:14:50,639 enough room for the organisms inhabiting 416 00:14:54,470 --> 00:14:53,440 it to remain stationary if so will they 417 00:14:56,550 --> 00:14:54,480 um 418 00:15:00,310 --> 00:14:56,560 evolve into some 419 00:15:01,509 --> 00:15:00,320 other sort of life or migrate 420 00:15:03,509 --> 00:15:01,519 that's that's another great plate 421 00:15:05,829 --> 00:15:03,519 tectonic question uh it kind of gets 422 00:15:07,030 --> 00:15:05,839 back to an answer to a previous question 423 00:15:08,790 --> 00:15:07,040 about what would happen if plate 424 00:15:10,150 --> 00:15:08,800 tectonics stopped working 425 00:15:12,629 --> 00:15:10,160 that's really what you'd need to have 426 00:15:14,949 --> 00:15:12,639 happen to to cause what you're talking 427 00:15:17,590 --> 00:15:14,959 about um there's actually a term that 428 00:15:19,509 --> 00:15:17,600 geologists use for that uh geologists 429 00:15:21,350 --> 00:15:19,519 about 100 years ago thought this same 430 00:15:23,269 --> 00:15:21,360 question they said why how come how come 431 00:15:24,629 --> 00:15:23,279 we have mountains before plate tectonics 432 00:15:26,069 --> 00:15:24,639 was understood 433 00:15:27,829 --> 00:15:26,079 and they were asking why don't the 434 00:15:29,670 --> 00:15:27,839 mountains just wear down 435 00:15:31,269 --> 00:15:29,680 to flat plains we know now it's because 436 00:15:32,949 --> 00:15:31,279 mountains or new mountains are formed 437 00:15:34,310 --> 00:15:32,959 due to plate tectonics but if that 438 00:15:36,310 --> 00:15:34,320 didn't exist 439 00:15:37,990 --> 00:15:36,320 and you just had erosion yeah eventually 440 00:15:39,590 --> 00:15:38,000 you'd wear everything down to a flat 441 00:15:40,710 --> 00:15:39,600 plane 442 00:15:42,150 --> 00:15:40,720 now this this wouldn't happen 443 00:15:44,310 --> 00:15:42,160 instantaneously of course this will take 444 00:15:47,749 --> 00:15:44,320 hundreds of millions of years so that's 445 00:15:50,949 --> 00:15:47,759 plenty of time for existing creatures to 446 00:15:53,670 --> 00:15:50,959 migrate to adapt to new conditions 447 00:15:55,590 --> 00:15:53,680 and so forth so i think you would see 448 00:15:57,990 --> 00:15:55,600 adaption occurring if this if plate 449 00:16:04,310 --> 00:15:58,000 tectonics stopped functioning um but 450 00:16:09,990 --> 00:16:08,310 getting some zingers these are good 451 00:16:12,870 --> 00:16:10,000 they are i'm shifting 452 00:16:15,269 --> 00:16:12,880 so in the near in um anywhere like in 453 00:16:17,189 --> 00:16:15,279 the next million years would there be 454 00:16:20,389 --> 00:16:17,199 anything falling off coming off of north 455 00:16:26,230 --> 00:16:23,350 whoops sorry the the answer that um 456 00:16:27,670 --> 00:16:26,240 probably the short answer is no um 457 00:16:29,910 --> 00:16:27,680 except for 458 00:16:32,389 --> 00:16:29,920 probably southern california 459 00:16:34,230 --> 00:16:32,399 most of the plate tectonic models show 460 00:16:36,870 --> 00:16:34,240 that southern california over the next 461 00:16:38,949 --> 00:16:36,880 50 million years or so is likely to 462 00:16:41,269 --> 00:16:38,959 break kind of along san andreas fault 463 00:16:43,350 --> 00:16:41,279 and start moving towards alaska 464 00:16:50,230 --> 00:16:43,360 so california may get smaller but that's 465 00:16:54,870 --> 00:16:52,870 are the teachers who train astronauts 466 00:16:57,110 --> 00:16:54,880 actual astronauts themselves or are they 467 00:17:01,189 --> 00:16:57,120 just people who use information 468 00:17:04,470 --> 00:17:03,430 that that's a that's a good question 469 00:17:07,029 --> 00:17:04,480 i'm actually one of the people who 470 00:17:08,789 --> 00:17:07,039 trains astronauts uh through the crew of 471 00:17:10,069 --> 00:17:08,799 thobs project here 472 00:17:12,710 --> 00:17:10,079 astronauts 473 00:17:14,949 --> 00:17:12,720 they do train each other in some aspects 474 00:17:16,789 --> 00:17:14,959 but for science training 475 00:17:18,069 --> 00:17:16,799 they're trained by people like me and 476 00:17:20,309 --> 00:17:18,079 others of my colleagues other earth 477 00:17:22,150 --> 00:17:20,319 scientists atmospheric scientists 478 00:17:24,309 --> 00:17:22,160 and for other technical issues like for 479 00:17:26,150 --> 00:17:24,319 taking photographs from the iss they're 480 00:17:28,230 --> 00:17:26,160 trained by another group that is 481 00:17:29,110 --> 00:17:28,240 composed of expert photographers 482 00:17:30,230 --> 00:17:29,120 so 483 00:17:31,830 --> 00:17:30,240 i guess the answer to your question is 484 00:17:33,270 --> 00:17:31,840 yes or no for some things the astronauts 485 00:17:35,909 --> 00:17:33,280 do train themselves but for other things 486 00:17:37,590 --> 00:17:35,919 they rely on outside experts 487 00:17:39,750 --> 00:17:37,600 very good question i think we actually 488 00:17:41,909 --> 00:17:39,760 have a a website maybe we can get that 489 00:17:43,669 --> 00:17:41,919 for you for you guys going up here um 490 00:17:45,350 --> 00:17:43,679 just where you can actually go and look 491 00:17:47,190 --> 00:17:45,360 at a lot of those photographs that are 492 00:17:49,029 --> 00:17:47,200 taking photos yeah absolutely uh yeah 493 00:17:50,870 --> 00:17:49,039 it's if you if you do a google search on 494 00:17:51,909 --> 00:17:50,880 astronaut photography of earth it'll 495 00:17:54,150 --> 00:17:51,919 take you to the website yeah and there 496 00:17:58,150 --> 00:17:54,160 it is yeah 497 00:18:00,549 --> 00:17:58,160 does the upper s uh aspheric uh research 498 00:18:01,430 --> 00:18:00,559 satellite really have pieces falling on 499 00:18:06,230 --> 00:18:01,440 earth 500 00:18:09,270 --> 00:18:07,669 that uh 501 00:18:11,510 --> 00:18:09,280 your that's actually a question to ask 502 00:18:13,590 --> 00:18:11,520 because as kind of i said earlier 503 00:18:14,870 --> 00:18:13,600 there's orbital debris and meteors 504 00:18:17,590 --> 00:18:14,880 falling 505 00:18:19,430 --> 00:18:17,600 on the earth all the time every day most 506 00:18:20,710 --> 00:18:19,440 of that stuff is so small that it does 507 00:18:22,150 --> 00:18:20,720 burn up in the atmosphere and it never 508 00:18:24,390 --> 00:18:22,160 hits the surface 509 00:18:25,750 --> 00:18:24,400 for the you are satellite 510 00:18:28,789 --> 00:18:25,760 that was a little different case that 511 00:18:30,870 --> 00:18:28,799 thing was the size of a bus and when it 512 00:18:32,789 --> 00:18:30,880 entered the atmosphere most of it did 513 00:18:34,789 --> 00:18:32,799 indeed burn up but it was so big that 514 00:18:36,549 --> 00:18:34,799 some pieces did survive 515 00:18:38,630 --> 00:18:36,559 to go through the atmosphere 516 00:18:40,390 --> 00:18:38,640 now most of those pieces 517 00:18:42,390 --> 00:18:40,400 fell into the ocean because the ocean 518 00:18:43,750 --> 00:18:42,400 covers 70 percent of the earth's surface 519 00:18:45,590 --> 00:18:43,760 and this happens to most stuff that 520 00:18:47,350 --> 00:18:45,600 actually makes it through the atmosphere 521 00:18:48,230 --> 00:18:47,360 to hit the to hit the surface of the 522 00:18:50,150 --> 00:18:48,240 earth 523 00:18:52,230 --> 00:18:50,160 there's been no reports that i know of 524 00:18:53,669 --> 00:18:52,240 at least of anyone being hit by any kind 525 00:18:55,909 --> 00:18:53,679 of debris 526 00:19:02,390 --> 00:18:55,919 from space and certainly nothing from 527 00:19:05,990 --> 00:19:04,150 how long does it take for information to 528 00:19:09,669 --> 00:19:06,000 be received from the satellite is there 529 00:19:12,150 --> 00:19:09,679 any delay or does it happen in real time 530 00:19:14,470 --> 00:19:12,160 that's an excellent question 531 00:19:16,789 --> 00:19:14,480 for most satellites there is a slight 532 00:19:18,710 --> 00:19:16,799 delay time uh like i said earlier some 533 00:19:20,710 --> 00:19:18,720 if you have a receiving station 534 00:19:22,870 --> 00:19:20,720 you can collect data from the satellite 535 00:19:25,350 --> 00:19:22,880 as soon as it passes overhead but 536 00:19:27,190 --> 00:19:25,360 typically that data is what we call raw 537 00:19:28,710 --> 00:19:27,200 it's raw form it needs to be processed 538 00:19:31,430 --> 00:19:28,720 before it can be usable 539 00:19:33,669 --> 00:19:31,440 by a scientist or a member of the public 540 00:19:35,669 --> 00:19:33,679 so there typically is a delay time of a 541 00:19:37,029 --> 00:19:35,679 few hours before you get data from the 542 00:19:39,830 --> 00:19:37,039 satellite to the point where it can be 543 00:19:42,630 --> 00:19:39,840 distributed for use by other people 544 00:19:44,630 --> 00:19:42,640 there are some other kinds of sensors 545 00:19:45,909 --> 00:19:44,640 like on the iss there are there are 546 00:19:48,470 --> 00:19:45,919 video cameras 547 00:19:49,510 --> 00:19:48,480 that if there's line of sight to the 548 00:19:51,990 --> 00:19:49,520 ground 549 00:19:54,150 --> 00:19:52,000 you can transmit that information down 550 00:19:56,070 --> 00:19:54,160 in more or less real time 551 00:19:59,350 --> 00:19:56,080 and there's new sensors going up on the 552 00:20:01,430 --> 00:19:59,360 iss high definition external cameras 553 00:20:02,710 --> 00:20:01,440 that will that's the the intent the 554 00:20:04,470 --> 00:20:02,720 intent is to actually have it in real 555 00:20:06,310 --> 00:20:04,480 time so you can view exactly what is 556 00:20:08,310 --> 00:20:06,320 being seen from the space station from 557 00:20:09,430 --> 00:20:08,320 the ground that's excellent 558 00:20:10,950 --> 00:20:09,440 do you have any 559 00:20:15,190 --> 00:20:10,960 more questions i think we have just a 560 00:20:21,430 --> 00:20:18,310 let's say a ship passes over a sea floor 561 00:20:23,430 --> 00:20:21,440 that has a reverse magnetic polarization 562 00:20:25,830 --> 00:20:23,440 how would this affect the magnetic field 563 00:20:30,149 --> 00:20:28,310 for that question uh and the great 564 00:20:32,070 --> 00:20:30,159 question 565 00:20:33,590 --> 00:20:32,080 the ship's compass 566 00:20:34,789 --> 00:20:33,600 wouldn't see any effect it would just 567 00:20:36,470 --> 00:20:34,799 see the uh 568 00:20:38,310 --> 00:20:36,480 the regular you know the current earth's 569 00:20:40,470 --> 00:20:38,320 magnetic field and that's mainly because 570 00:20:42,390 --> 00:20:40,480 the ship is so far away it's far enough 571 00:20:43,750 --> 00:20:42,400 above the sea floor so that you won't 572 00:20:45,110 --> 00:20:43,760 get any effect from remnant 573 00:20:46,789 --> 00:20:45,120 magnetization 574 00:20:49,590 --> 00:20:46,799 uh the way that was originally 575 00:20:51,750 --> 00:20:49,600 discovered was by towing sensitive 576 00:20:53,830 --> 00:20:51,760 sensors behind ships so they were pretty 577 00:20:55,750 --> 00:20:53,840 much right over the sea floor and when 578 00:20:57,350 --> 00:20:55,760 you do that you can see the difference 579 00:20:59,190 --> 00:20:57,360 in the magnetic field orientation from 580 00:21:01,029 --> 00:20:59,200 the minerals that were frozen into the 581 00:21:02,870 --> 00:21:01,039 sea floor when it crystallized 582 00:21:04,390 --> 00:21:02,880 but from a ship on the surface 583 00:21:11,430 --> 00:21:04,400 no you you wouldn't see any effect from 584 00:21:18,310 --> 00:21:13,270 if you see dangerous weather coming to a 585 00:21:22,549 --> 00:21:20,149 okay i think i think you mean are you 586 00:21:26,230 --> 00:21:22,559 asking if you see dangerous weather from 587 00:21:28,310 --> 00:21:26,240 orbit or on the ground yeah 588 00:21:29,750 --> 00:21:28,320 um on the ground 589 00:21:30,950 --> 00:21:29,760 okay well if you see if you see if you 590 00:21:32,549 --> 00:21:30,960 see dangerous weather coming on the 591 00:21:33,350 --> 00:21:32,559 ground like a tornado or something like 592 00:21:35,190 --> 00:21:33,360 that 593 00:21:37,190 --> 00:21:35,200 uh well the first thing i would do is 594 00:21:39,029 --> 00:21:37,200 attend to your own safety first you'll 595 00:21:40,789 --> 00:21:39,039 find somewhere that's out of the path 596 00:21:43,830 --> 00:21:40,799 but then you might you would consider 597 00:21:46,070 --> 00:21:43,840 calling your parents or the local police 598 00:21:47,029 --> 00:21:46,080 department fire department uh typically 599 00:21:49,029 --> 00:21:47,039 though 600 00:21:50,950 --> 00:21:49,039 for most of these this is an exam an 601 00:21:52,630 --> 00:21:50,960 advantage of the weather satellites for 602 00:21:54,870 --> 00:21:52,640 a lot of the big storm systems even for 603 00:21:56,310 --> 00:21:54,880 tornadoes we're improving our ability to 604 00:21:59,510 --> 00:21:56,320 be able to detect where those might 605 00:22:01,110 --> 00:21:59,520 occur from orbit so we're trying to 606 00:22:03,190 --> 00:22:01,120 improve the ability to warn people in 607 00:22:11,350 --> 00:22:03,200 the path of say tornadoes that keep on 608 00:22:17,510 --> 00:22:13,510 how accurate can you measure the speed 609 00:22:21,430 --> 00:22:18,789 well we have a lot of fans of plate 610 00:22:24,549 --> 00:22:21,440 tectonics in the audience today 611 00:22:26,070 --> 00:22:24,559 the with gps satellite measurements you 612 00:22:28,310 --> 00:22:26,080 can actually measure the speed of the 613 00:22:30,470 --> 00:22:28,320 continents down to 614 00:22:32,310 --> 00:22:30,480 millimeters per year 615 00:22:34,630 --> 00:22:32,320 but typically geologists we tend to 616 00:22:36,549 --> 00:22:34,640 measure the rate in centimeters per year 617 00:22:38,230 --> 00:22:36,559 and on average the continents are moving 618 00:22:40,470 --> 00:22:38,240 between about two and ten centimeters 619 00:22:53,029 --> 00:22:40,480 per year and that's about the same rate 620 00:22:53,039 --> 00:22:56,310 do we have any others 621 00:23:03,029 --> 00:22:58,549 this is really exciting i'm enjoying 622 00:23:07,990 --> 00:23:04,470 can you tell us a little bit about your 623 00:23:11,510 --> 00:23:09,270 oh i didn't know i was going to talk 624 00:23:12,870 --> 00:23:11,520 about myself here 625 00:23:15,590 --> 00:23:12,880 i'm a geologist 626 00:23:17,510 --> 00:23:15,600 and most of my research is done using 627 00:23:19,990 --> 00:23:17,520 data from satellites to look at the 628 00:23:22,950 --> 00:23:20,000 earth's surface and in particular i do a 629 00:23:24,230 --> 00:23:22,960 lot of work in mapping where 630 00:23:26,470 --> 00:23:24,240 different minerals are different rocks 631 00:23:28,070 --> 00:23:26,480 and minerals so geological mapping also 632 00:23:28,950 --> 00:23:28,080 i do a lot of work 633 00:23:32,950 --> 00:23:28,960 in 634 00:23:34,390 --> 00:23:32,960 urban heat islands where 635 00:23:36,549 --> 00:23:34,400 where cities get hotter than their 636 00:23:38,870 --> 00:23:36,559 surrounding environments and in 637 00:23:42,310 --> 00:23:38,880 particular where people in those cities 638 00:23:44,390 --> 00:23:42,320 are most at risk from high heat events 639 00:23:46,310 --> 00:23:44,400 so uh my thing is basically like 640 00:23:49,029 --> 00:23:46,320 geologic hazards in general but 641 00:23:50,950 --> 00:23:49,039 particularly looking at geologic hazards 642 00:23:52,390 --> 00:23:50,960 around cities so that's what i spend 643 00:23:54,070 --> 00:23:52,400 most of my time doing that's why those 644 00:23:57,430 --> 00:23:54,080 good geology questions were really great 645 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:09,669 do we have any others 646 00:24:25,990 --> 00:24:21,190 okay 647 00:24:27,430 --> 00:24:26,000 guys we really really appreciate those 648 00:24:29,750 --> 00:24:27,440 questions they're really great questions 649 00:24:32,070 --> 00:24:29,760 thank you again will for coming out and 650 00:24:33,669 --> 00:24:32,080 talking with the students i hope you all 651 00:24:35,909 --> 00:24:33,679 you're very welcome 652 00:24:38,470 --> 00:24:35,919 learn something new i know i did go back 653 00:24:41,029 --> 00:24:38,480 to to working there and uh 654 00:24:42,630 --> 00:24:41,039 studying hard and making your way to